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Now, these days’s customer is Chris Messina, the inventor of the hashtag, along with an early author on OAuth, which is an open standard authorization protocol, and ActivityStreams, which is the predecessor to ActivityPub, which we talk about such a lot on this show.
Chris, welcome to the show.
Chris Messina: Hello there, thanks, man. I’m happy to be once more proper right here.
File Pop: Man, I’m super excited to have you ever ever on for a lot of reasons. And in a while, we’re going to be talking about WordPress plugins and open web formats and hashtags and things like that. Let’s kick this off. I’ve a little little little bit of a minutiae for you. Twitter offered in March of 2006 and a few months later, you wrote a tweet asking if any individual was working on a Twitter to WordPress bridge, and that in truth is the very first indicate of WordPress on Twitter, a big round of applause for you at the time.
Chris Messina: Thank you
File Pop: And I guess that’s a way I’d like to kick this off. What’s your history with WordPress?
Chris Messina: Wow. I like you starting there by hook or by crook, because of my history with WordPress does transfer way back, , I was an early client of WordPress, on the other hand some of the problems that I consider is further vital to me was that when I first arrived in San Francisco, throughout the Bay Area, way back in 2004, one of the most important first those who I met included Matt Mullenweg.
And so Matt was some of the first those who I met. I knew what he was working on. I believe he would perhaps’ve been working at CNET at the time. And he and I and a variety of different other early web folks would get together and easily be in contact regarding the longer term, talk about building the open web platform, talk about building social techniques.
And it was by the use of those connections that we organized something referred to as Bar Camp, which in truth, while you’ve been to a WordCamp, you’ve got been to some of the descendants of that. And so Bar Camp first were given right here out in 2005 as an match that was organized and put on by the use of the individuals, by the use of the people who showed up, and it type of spawned an international movement that kind of gave upward push to in-person interactions with people who you in a different way would perhaps’ve very best identified throughout the internet.
I guess my early experience and exposure to WordPress was that it was this excellent and reasonably to be had platform for, in truth, publishing regardless of you wanted to on the net without any gatekeepers or without a wish to get permission from any individual.
And of course it was extensible by the use of plugins and it was moreover open provide. So it had relatively a couple of the ones portions that made for, I guess, a generative type of software that allowed inexperienced persons to increase it into, , what it finally has become these days.
File Pop: Once more then, 2004 to 2007 in particular, it felt identical to the web was very unsiloed or becoming unsiloed. It felt like it kind of went from being one place. You went to spreading out to an entire bunch of web pages that you wish to have to visit, and then new social networks had been taking pictures up and everything felt in point of fact kind of distributed.
And WordPress was part of that. Twitter obviously was part of that Web 2.0. And then it felt like those silos kind of seemed over again. And it felt like unexpectedly, we’ve got been being funneled once more into the an identical kind of 4 platforms, and apparently like that’s changing over again. Are we going once more to like a decentralized web? Is WordPress possibly going to be part of that web? Or is it possibly going to be a whole different means the web works?
Chris Messina: You know, there’s any such lot history that I would possibly percentage, on the other hand I don’t want to bore you or the listeners. I consider one of the best ways that I’d check out it’s there was indisputably a duration of exploration, experimentation, take a look at new problems. There was an assumption that building software that may be social and that had the presence of other people and no longer very best that, on the other hand other people with faces was this sort of crazy innovation from a behavioral and societal point of view, , prior to, 2006 and seven, the internet was however something that was kind of awkward and tough to use. Other people had been afraid. I was afraid to place my precise name available in the market. I indicate, it took me years. I indicate, I started out on the net as Production facility Joe, and that was my WordPress blog because of I wanted to have a separation between my internet identity and my precise world identity.
And over time, there were moments where that internet identity become further widely recognized than my precise name and my precise self. And that I consider was the moment where it all started to be clear that the internet and the web was going to be something that was going to become no longer abnormal, as opposed to something that was slightly esoteric or, , only for nerds.
And so I consider as a result of the popularization of the ones apparatus and technologies, a want to make these things more practical to use and in particular more straightforward for other people to hunt out their buddies and connect with their buddies. And then there was a whole layer of privacy and privacy expectations that was harder to support in a decentralized sort, because of while decentralization is terribly essential for freedom and for exploration and experimentation and for pluralities of , ideas of how software can art work and behave, you moreover need interoperability so that other people on two different platforms can in truth connect and pay attention to, , merely being there and commenting on every other’s stuff or seeing every other’s stuff.
So, that’s some of the precise difficult eventualities of decentralized innovation. And I guess what I’d say is that we’ve kind of gone by the use of a duration where there was a bunch of internet division shops which were created, which was, , Facebook and Instagram, and platforms like that, where, certain, there was social content material subject matter, on the other hand then it become commercial in nature and a lot of patterns for some way other people interact or want to interact or are ready to engage on the ones platforms become widely recognized, such that now, we will be able to take all of the ones product patterns and then put them into open provide, decentralized products, and we will be able to standardize them.
So there’s kind of this breathing process or man, what’s the word, it’s pendulation, where you move from one end to the other, you progress from decentralization and experimentation into centralization, where you resolve the patterns that art work. And then you definitely definately kind of get into this ossification where everything gets kind of uninteresting and the an identical, and then you definitely definately switch once more throughout the other course towards decentralization. And I believe that we’re throughout the duration of decentralization at the moment, because of we’re getting kind of fed up in, , the gatekeepers that have decided what’s allowable, what is ok, what are the right kind ideas to assume. And I consider other people want further plurality and diversity.
File Pop: I mentioned earlier that you simply had been an early author on OAuth and ActivityStreams, and I feel like both one of the most ones tie into what you’re talking about. Inside the early days of decentralization, the ones decentralized products and services and merchandise sought after ways as a way to authenticate and offers permission to get right to use and be in contact to each other while however protective some level of privacy.
And I know that the OAuth remains to be spherical and thriving. OAuth 2.0, I consider, is the huge fashion now. And in addition you check out in WordPress plugins, you’ll see such a lot, in every single place, for connecting your Facebook on your WordPress or WordPress, your Facebook or regardless of. Correct. It’s however spherical and expectantly, it’ll come once more or is it already proper right here and easily other people don’t know that they’re already living in this sort of decentralized world already?
Chris Messina: Yeah. I guess I’d say there’s type of like different measurements of decentralization. You know, there’s obviously the definitely centralized and closed to interoperability platforms. Apple tends to be, , further centralized where everything kind of has to art work well within their ecosystem, all of the means from the {{hardware}} into the software and products and services and merchandise layer. You then certainly transfer to the web, and there’s a lot of interconnectedness between different platforms, to the extent that it’s decentralized. That must be evaluated in line with the type of interoperability and the extent to which people are on their own little hosts, let’s say, or their own servers, and that those problems interact or connect without, I indicate, with a point of coordination.
So, Mastodon as a group is an excellent example of decentralization where you’ll have many quite a lot of circumstances or products and services and merchandise or servers that connect to one another without figuring out that the others existed up to now. All you wish to have to understand is that there’s a site name and you employ DNS and also you’ll to seek out the other servers and also you’ll indicate people who are on other servers.
That’s decentralization, to respond to your question, even if, I consider it’s worth going once more to the beginning position of OAuth, which was at the beginning referred to as OpenAuth, however it grew to turn out to be out, I consider Yahoo was the use of that name, so we couldn’t use that. So we had to shorten it. And what, where these kind of problems were given right here from, was as Matt was working on the early permutations of WordPress, I worked on the free up of Mozilla Firefox, and that was in 2004. And I kind of were given right here to this conclusion, and I’m positive many other people had been desirous about it, which is that the browser will have to become social. The browser will have to understand who your friends are, because of at the time we’ve got been the use of a lot of social apps.
There were apps like something referred to as Upcoming, which possibly these days is similar to Luma or Eventbrite. Now we have been the use of Flickr, in truth, which is the predecessor to Instagram. We had relatively a couple of the ones apps that stored asking us who our buddies had been every time we’d sign up for and create a brand spanking new account. And it was like, well, the browser is the place that we’ve got been the use of to get right to use all of the ones different products and services and merchandise. And so let’s put it all into the browser for the reason that client’s agent. And so that led us to needless to say we needed to have relatively a couple of new technologies to permit that to happen. And a type of technologies was OpenID. And so as which may be your identity. Essentially, you sought after some option to determine a person. And the speculation was, let’s assemble that as a URL. And that may be your WordPress blog. And so I started a endeavor referred to as the DiSo undertaking, D I S O, to in point of fact create relatively a couple of WordPress plugins that may implement formats that may imply you’ll be able to decentralize a social group on the once more of WordPress.
Now, this was previous to BuddyPress and those sorts of products existed, on the other hand we’ve got been maximum recurrently desirous about learn to assemble protocols to make this conceivable. And along one of the best ways, we found out that merely sharing your password on every different web page that you simply wanted to connect to, to start with, it was insecure. And secondly, it merely created this possibly false sense of coverage and we needed to get to the bottom of for that.
And that’s where OAuth were given right here from. OAuth was a way as a way to principally generate a kind of on-the-fly password that may be used for a single tool or web page, and that may moreover rotate itself over time. And so that’s principally how that were given right here together. And initially, it was just for a bunch of small startups and founders, and then finally we’ve got been ready to get other people like Google and others to adopt it.
File Pop: That’s a great place for us to take a temporary commercial wreck. Once we come once more, we’ll choose up our conversation with Chris Messina. Stay tuned for additonal.
Welcome once more to Press This, the WordPress staff podcast. I’m your host File Pop. At the present time I’m speaking to Chris Messina, the inventor of the hashtag. We haven’t even talked regarding the hashtag however, and I are aware of it’s a temporary show, right kind? We’ve got any such lot to talk about and there’s such a large amount of exciting problems to talk about at the moment, as federation is catching on, on the web, expectantly, and as the web is possibly swinging once more, as you’re announcing, throughout the pendulum once more towards decentralization. And in addition you mentioned DiSo previous to our wreck, that’s the distributed social networking app that you simply had been working on, and I wanted to say that Matthias Pfefferle, the writer of the ActivityPlub plugin for WordPress, he heard you could have been coming on the show and he wanted me to, I guess, thank you for your art work on DiSo. He says that the DiSo endeavor was a huge inspiration for him and motivated him to art work on the IndieWeb slash Fediverse plugins on WordPress, which I profit from and love.
So, shout-out to that. It was moreover, I know a huge expansion for the IndieWeb staff. Is there anything you wish to have to say about regarding the state of DiSo now?
Chris Messina: You know, a lot of the problems that I started or, or helped to get off the ground, because of no doubt the ones had been collaborative efforts had been, had been the seeds or, or type of like, , germs of ideas and concepts that I assumed in. And worked on long enough to kind of till the soil for these items to take root.
On the other hand then it sort of feels I’m no longer an excellent farmer. I kind of like switch immediately to the next issue, possibly a little further like Johnny Appleseed, I guess. And I merely hope that these things become regardless of they’re going to become. In any such lot as, , when I spotted that Automattic was going to be adopting ActivityPub and that Matthias had in truth worked on this, , one, there was just a sense of like, , pride, , type of like my children have grown up and they’ve turn out to be something precise.
However moreover like the reality that they’ve been raised by the use of, , a village and a bunch of other people after I’d long moved on. So I consider it’s on the one hand, essential for me to kind of dangle the torch of the beginning position of where these things were given right here from and to replicate at the reason why we might have favored to do these things and what was the reason for us to create them in one of the best ways that we did.
On the other hand then moreover to include open provide as a way to allow these things to type of lay fallow is just too destructive, on the other hand essentially to type of take root, and then when the time was right kind to type of spring forth from the ground and to turn out to be something excellent and to blossom into what they could become. And so, , I’m just so stoked to look that, , Matthias was ready to try this and to do it by hook or by crook where he’s going to put across it to all the WordPress ecosystem.
Like that is exactly what we might have favored to do, but when we’ve got been doing it, it was too briefly. Other people didn’t understand why this kind of decentralization was very important or essential. And now now we have a lot of examples that I consider lead other people to understand why one, , I don’t like the idea of like proudly proudly owning your audience, on the other hand having a tougher connection and courting to other people over time by the use of software that you simply’ve were given regulate over is essential, and that the ones underlying protocols and technologies that we were given right here up with had been all about enfranchising other people to have those relationships in a long term, vital means.
File Pop: Switching gears a little bit, we’re talking about proudly proudly owning your audience and possibly how audiences to seek out you and they’d to seek out you favor you could have a e-newsletter that you simply maintain and in addition you send links out to web pages, or it’s worthwhile to use social media and send links out to web pages, that seems to be driving a lot much less and no more website guests in this day and age.
On the other hand the number 1 option to discover a new site or, , to surf the web, however, is Google. That’s clearly no longer going to switch anytime briefly, on the other hand a brand spanking new…
Chris Messina: It is going to change, on the other hand transfer ahead.
File Pop: Yeah, a brand spanking new find out about by the use of German researchers states that Google search results are getting worse. It’s no longer our imagination.
The year-long find out about showed that extraordinarily optimized, low top quality, principally junk mail articles are dominating search results. And in a similar fashion, web pages like 404media found out that Google data was boosting AI-generated permutations of 404media’s articles. In numerous words, other people had been the use of AI to copy, paste, and reasonably change words and then merely flood.
And Google Knowledge was promoting those as a substitute of the original provide articles. One very last thing that’s happening on very best of all of this, because of there’s at all times been this struggle between spammers and Google, on the other hand the last thing that’s happening is Google and Bing are in reality together with AI-generated articles whilst you do search results.
They’re kind of like, I don’t know, getting rid of that promise that they had to help connect web pages. And as a substitute, it sort of feels like they’re starting to kind of keep them there. So, good enough. That’s my long-winded speech about how I feel. Chris, I want to pay attention how you feel about how small internet websites can continue to be discovered throughout the next coming years.
Chris Messina: Neatly, I will be able to percentage a way, and the feeling that I’ve throughout the provide 2nd, I consider is one in all, to a point, bewilderment, however moreover excitement and enthusiasm, a little little little bit of trepidation and in addition optimism. And I don’t assume optimism is a way, on the other hand I’ll transfer with it. The question that you simply ask presupposes that one of the best ways that the web is and has been will have to be one of the best ways that the web persists and will continue to be. And this fingers race that you simply mentioned presumes that this battle over attention and get right to use to audiences is by some means the purpose of the internet and the web, and I hate to assist you to know, however it’s no longer. It’s in point of fact about rising connections between different other people with different perspectives and research or products and belongings.
And we’ve been spending the remaining 15 to two decades, largely rising a lot of text based content material subject matter. You know, one, because of digital storage the efficiency of that sort. We’re arising to some extent — we use the singularity, I consider, to give an explanation for where, , folks and pc methods kind of, , become one or type of where there’s an overlap where pc methods overtake human thoughts.
And I consider. It’s essential to recognize that, I guess I’d say identical to the wildlife, or identical to the microbiome of the ones small internet websites can and will persist, on the other hand one of the best ways by which they pursue excellent fortune perhaps is going to want to change and be instead of it’s been previously. And I’ll merely say like, For those who occur to check out, there’s a brand spanking new search engine referred to as Perplexity, which aspires to be an answer engine, and Google, for a very long time, I indicate, I worked at Google for three and an element years, moreover wanted to be an answer engine. They wanted to, , index all of the world’s information to make it useful and available and to be had. And similarly, that doesn’t indicate that getting you to a couple of other web page throughout the internet is the most productive option to make that information useful or to be had.
So where we’re going someday can be that you simply’re going to have relatively a couple of different agents and bots and products and services and merchandise that you simply conversationally interact with, , very similar to you text a pal {a photograph}, you’re like, what is this? A computer is going so to check out the problems that you simply send it and answer with a reasonably detailed set of information without you having to talk over with secondary or tertiary belongings, till you wish to have to.
From a capitalist point of view, we’ve made it very, very atmosphere pleasant to create low-quality information power. And we’re pumping out all varieties of junk foods throughout the social media networks because of they’re very reasonably priced, essentially, to spread information by the use of. And it’s starting to cause a kind of like information weight issues, where we want to battle once more with larger top quality information and better top quality relationships. Now, what does that indicate for small producers of, let’s say, artisanal content material subject matter? Neatly, by hook or by crook it way it’s a golden choice for you.
Specifically if you have a courting in conjunction with your audience and in particular while you’re developing that courting over time. You know, it’s funny, a couple of years previously, I consider once more in 2016, I coined this period of time “conversational business” to provide an explanation for how we’re coming into into a world where the ways by which now we have conversations with pc methods in reality is a conversation that creates a bi-directional channel where we will be able to kind of get to shared understanding by the use of going backward and forward to achieve at some higher sense of clarity or knowledge regarding the other person or the other entity and that business someday. It is going to be a lot much less about going to, , Amazon and putting in some generic phrase or product name and then seeing a list of these kind of different products which might be principally ads, taking a look to bid for your attention, to get them to, to get you to buy them. On the other hand as a substitute, you kind of talk about what your need is and through that you wish to have to reason with a computer and it’ll type of degree you to relatively a couple of solutions which may be larger for you.
In a similar way, I consider other people which might be writing larger content material subject matter have revel in that expectantly they are able to then offer by the use of higher-value transactions or I don’t want to say courses, on the other hand just like the position going deeper is going to be a place where individuals are ready to provide a lot more worth than just type of like rising masses of pages on a web page for audiences which might be completely unknown.
So possibly this isn’t a great solution for , your audience, on the other hand I’ve an excessively hard time imagining that merely rising content material subject matter farms is going to be a long-term sustainable trade relative to creating prime quality differentiated content material subject matter that you just can’t get anyplace else.
File Pop: I consider that’s any other good spot for us to take a temporary wreck. And once we come once more, we’re going to wrap up our conversation with Chris Messina. I’ve but every other little little bit of hashtag slash WordPress minutiae for you. So stay tuned after the short wreck.
Welcome once more to Press This. We’re wrapping up our conversation with Chris Messina, and I’ve already mentioned Chris, your hashtag credentials for the reason that inventor of the hashtag. And in addition you could have been the principle person to mention WordPress on Twitter. I’ve but every other fun little little bit of minutiae for you at the moment. Have you learnt that while you transfer into WordPress, just a vanilla fashion of WordPress at the moment, and in a put up or internet web page, while you kind a pound sign and then text, it will automatically create a hyperlink, functionally a hashtag, that searches your site for various hashtags.
So if I typed on my blog put up, “Hello there, these days I’ve. #ChrisMessina on the show these days. What questions do you’ve got?” And while you post that and click on on on that, it’s now a clickable link. Have you learnt that that exists?
Chris Messina: I was no longer acutely aware of that. So thank you for letting me know.
File Pop: I indicate, it’s kind of in every single place now. And this in truth does put across me a little bit once more to this idea of discoverability and connectivity. We’ve discussed ActivityStreams, which you worked on and it was the predecessor to ActivityPub. I’m wondering if possibly one of the best ways that this works, web links get a, I don’t know why, they get an unpleasant reputation, on the other hand other people at all times say web links and then they chortle.
And I’m wondering if we’re going once more to this era where possibly the use of this capacity, right kind, this hashtag capacity or any type of tags, possibly my site, my WordPress site would possibly federate with other web pages, right kind? Most likely I’m merely sounding like I’m taking a look to sound smart or something proper right here, on the other hand like, possibly I would possibly choose to federate with other web pages.
And whilst you click on on on a tag on my site about cooking or about Christmas or about regardless of, it could in truth show you principally a web link search finish consequence. Do you assume this is something that’s useful and that may perhaps help keep web pages connected? Or is this the flawed path to be brooding about at the moment?
Chris Messina: No, I consider that’s a great thought. And let me provide an explanation for why the purpose of the hashtag when I proposed it all of the way back in 2007, over again, , Twitter were given right here out in 2006. The iPhone were given right here out in January of 2007. And having gone to South by the use of Southwest in March of 2007, , where any other other people had iPhones, on the other hand the general public didn’t, we’ve got been the use of Twitter as a real time group for finding out what was going on and where to talk over with to seek out other people and to meet up with them.
And there was a backlash from people who weren’t at South by the use of Southwest, principally saying, we’re getting these kind of junk mail text messages—because of Twitter was a text message supplier once more then—sent to our phones the least bit hours of night while you guys are out getting wasted in Austin, , how do we clear out all of your foolish tweets?
There were relatively a couple of different solutions that may have worked. One amongst them that I was taking a look to signify was well, I wasn’t proposing this, on the other hand there was a suggestion that possibly Twitter will have to have groups, , kind of like data groups. And in order that you’d create a host and then you wish to have to select who’s throughout the group and who’s no longer throughout the group.
And , it’ll art work kind of like Flickr groups and as a text messaging-based supplier, I was like, that’s no longer going to art work. Like, I will have to be at a bar drunk and , know how to use without reference to the group capacity is correct right here. And so it merely handed off to me that we could use IRC style prefix, like hashtag prefix, and then word. And that may create what I title the tag channel. And so that’s kind of where the original thought were given right here from. It was no doubt inspired by the use of IRC, however it was built for mobile social networking. And so the principle precise use case was in truth for the Bar Camp staff, which I mentioned previous to, and that was for us to hunt out every other.
And so that was an early, small, relative distributed or decentralized ecosystem of events which were happening all over the place the sector, , with possibly masses of other people, , no longer lots of masses or tens of thousands and thousands of other people. In an effort to your degree, I do assume that there’s a chance someday where there are a variety of ActivityPub compliant servers, some WordPress, some Mastodon, possibly even Threads, which might be emitting movements and within the ones movements, you’ll use hashtags as a way of coordinating procedure between the ones decentralized actors. I’ve been having this argument largely with Meta about Threads’ lack of use of hashtags.
In truth, they resist them, even supposing they use the hashtag symbol to create the ones tags and they title them topic tags. I title them Franken tags. It’s glorious. So merely in one of the best ways that you simply’ll create a tag in a put up, such as you’ll in WordPress, you’ll create a tag on Threads. However, Threads will remove the pound symbol prefix, and so it’s very hard for downstream. I’m going to show you tactics to take a look at this in just a second, on the other hand first, let me show you learn to add a tag.
So in relation to Bar Camp, identical to the prefix of the pound symbol is in truth essential. It’s a signifier to everyone else who’s on your federated group to use the an identical symbol to talk about the an identical type of match. The aim is you’ll come up with regardless of arbitrary tags you wish to have to use. And then, while you use hashtags, that in truth creates further freedom and additional ability to decentralize and now have coherent conversations.
So that’s why what you’re saying is exactly the aim of hashtags and why I’ve been fighting for them for plenty of of my career, because of other people misunderstand. The coordinating worth of the tags, like all of the court cases about hashtags are slightly respectable from a purely aesthetic point of view. Other people say they’re too ugly or like other people use too numerous them. They abuse them or they use irrelevant ones. Those problems are all true, on the other hand that has to do with the habits, no longer the technology. So once we take into consideration this carried out to, I need the social web over Fediverse. On the other hand while you be in contact regarding the Fediverse, hashtags are an intrinsically useful option to allow other people to run to the perimeters of the internet and to increase their own little outposts and however stay connected by the use of the ones type of supplier pigeon messages that transfer pollinate right through all the group.
And I consider hashtags is a option to sew all of the ones problems up. Very similar to whilst you mentioned anyone, , you’ve got an identity for a person that lives at a site, a hashtag in truth is an international identifier that works right through all the social web.
File Pop: That’s well put. And I in truth even found out as I was describing that to you, I was however brooding about stunning old school, stunning myopic. If I wrote put up on my WordPress blog and I included a hashtag on there, other people couldn’t click on on on it and possibly see other people in my federated world, on the other hand possibly moreover they’d have a tab that shows other people they follow that mentioned that exact same issue, and that would include other WordPress blogs as well.
So that, wow, that in point of fact blows your ideas. It’s no longer merely me connecting to my buddies, however moreover my lovers.
Chris Messina: Look, I indicate, all of the thought is that it’s a option to slice by the use of relatively a couple of different contexts and to put across together a conversation where you choose. It’s no longer exactly moderation, on the other hand where you choose what’s inbounds and what’s out of bounds, right kind? So if I want to see File Pop’s buddies and what they’re talking about, this hashtag that I’ve in no way spotted previous to, and suddenly it explodes this conversation about something that I’m in truth interested by. That’s super valuable. That’s a very good discovery tool that no person had to create.
You don’t will have to check in or check out in with some authority and they are able to’t shut you down, right kind? And if other people get began spamming the tag, that’s no longer a big deal because you don’t follow them. right kind?
So there’s a self healing aspect of the Fediverse that I consider we’ve out of place and that’s worth fighting for. And like, obviously I’m biased, on the other hand I consider hashtags are very and will have to be used as a way to re-enfranchise other people when they want to connect with networks which might be off of the mainstream type of, , mall-based social networks.
File Pop: And on that realize, Chris, what’s the most productive imaginable place for other people to watch you online at the moment?
Chris Messina: So that you’ll at all times get to my web page. Chris Messina dot me. I’m throughout the process redoing it, on the other hand , we’ll see. And then I’m moreover in truth on Threads. So, you’ll to seek out me, at threads.internet/@Chris. I’ve left X slash Twitter, so those are the two places where I’m most full of life in this day and age.
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